Blake Griffin for Melo? Who wins?

  • Started By Dana Kurtz
  • Sidelines Senior Analyst
  • 3¬†years ago
Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

This is just a rumor, but lets let our imaginations run wild here. Say Blake Griffin does get traded for Carmelo Anthony, do the Knicks or Clippers get the better deal? Melo is one of the best pure scorers in the league, while Griffin excels on defense and has a ton of electricity.

This trade I think would be best for Melo's career overall. He would finally get to a team with an ability to play on both sides of the ball, and have a great assist man in CP3 (when he's healthy). If I was Blake Griffin, I'd rather not be apart of this trade, but as the Knicks, it would be better for them to get something for Melo considering he's most likely leaving New York after this season.

So if you guys were either of these organizations, would you make the trade? And who would be the beneficiary of this this, most likely never to happen, trade?

Kale Roy
Kale Roy
Senior Columnist

This would be a better trade for the Knicks, although I do believe both teams would benefit.
First of all, Melo is in the last year of his contract and with the year New York is having I doubt he's going to stay anyways. It's not debatable who is the better player right now; Anthony, but as Griffin is only 24, he has the potential to be the face of one of the biggest markets in the NBA.
I don't think you can win with Carmelo as your best player. He just takes too many shots and doesn't make any of his teammates better. But playing alongside CP3 and under Rivers' watch, he may become a more efficient scorer, especially since he won't be the only main focus for a defense. Look at what changing teams did for Rudy Gay this season (who, by the way, is also a talented inefficient small forward). Since going to Sac town, he increased his FG% by over ten percent.

I think it would be a great trade for the Knicks because fans would come out to the games to watch Blake Griffin dunk and they would have a superstar power forward in his prime

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

I think Doc Rivers would find a way to make Melo ascend to a different level honestly. I think Melo takes off a little bit when he's on defense, which is why he is so dynamic on offense, but Rivers would make him play more all around. Griffin on the other hand would be going into a completely different environment, where no one's job is certain.

scott whittum
scott whittum
Elite Columnist

The Knicks win because they get rid of Melo. It would be addition by subtraction by getting rid of him and bringing in Blake Griffin. Carmelo Anthony is not a guy that you win NBA Titles with. In the end Melo, no matter how good Doc Rivers is in dealing with him is a team wrecker and a not someone who makes his team better.

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

There is no situation in which you think Melo would be a good player to have on your team? Like, at all? @Scott Whittum

Abel Tovar
Abel Tovar
Analyst

Neither plays defense so if the Clippers can get Melo they'll come out on top of this trade because of his scoring ability. The Clippers make this trade and I think it pushes them over the top as the favorites coming out of the West.

JCooper Cooper
JCooper Cooper
Senior Analyst

I'm with @Abel Tovar... This season Blake has played the best defense he's ever played and he's still not averaging a block a game. Actually for the size and position advantage Blake has over Melo he only averages a little over a rebound more a game than Melo and they both average a steal a game. You add the fact that Melo can hit threes and shoots over 80% from the freethrow line and you have the winner of this deal. With all the athletic and jumping ability Blake has he should be a league leader in blocks every season. I'd take Melo...

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

Maybe saying he excels on defense is a stretch, but he's good on the boards to say the least. I agree with you regardless @Abel Tovar. I think Melo's scoring ability would add a plus to the Clippers game, and maybe he will finally have chemistry with a teammate in CP3.

Mark Bruty
Mark Bruty
Analyst

To be perfectly honest, I think the Clippers would win here. Put a flat out scorer alongside the best PG in the game with a great head coach and let's see how that plays out. I think Melo would become a better defender (not great but better) and they could cover it a little. Griffin doesn't exactly make you stand up and applaud on D either. Melo COULD become a more efficient scorer and it would give the Clippers a bit more variety on that side of the ball. Griffin in New York would work too since Amare is basically done and Griffin is an upgrade on Bargnani. The Knicks would still suck, but they would be entertaining. If they could get a decent PG to work with Griffin, Chandler etc then it could be a similar situation to the Clippers now. Not sure I see it happening, but it wouldn't be the worst move for either team I think.

Derek Wizzle
Derek Wizzle
Editor

I think it would be a great trade for the Knicks because fans would come out to the games to watch Blake Griffin dunk and they would have a superstar power forward in his prime.

The Clippers don't need Melo because their team is filled with scorers already and they have Jamal Crawford on the bench.

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

Well there is no doubt the Clippers are already a better team, but would losing a guy like Griffin hurt them? Melo isn't exactly a perfect fill in for Griffin.

Aditya Trivedi
Aditya Trivedi
Senior Analyst

This would be a loss for the Clippers. Why? Cause they need to keep their post play.

Melo has a solid mid range and post game. But he's not a better rebounder than Blake Griffin and can't bang down low as he has a height disadvantage. Not to mention the emergence of Blake Griffin's jumper makes him all that much a better pick. Melo will demand the ball too much even when CP3 gets back and it's clear that you can't win while making Melo have the ball in his hands at all times.

This would help bring toughness to NYC but it ain't gonna happen. Doc has already ruled it as a dumb story and while Melo is a great player, it's not worth trading for Melo by any means.

Bobby Sherman
Bobby Sherman
Senior Columnist

@Dana kurtz, I think the Knicks get the better end of this deal. Look, we all know Melo can score. In fact, he's probably the best pure scorer in the league right now. But the fact of the matter is that Melo has not made any team hes been on a better team overall. And the Knicks get to be rid of Melo and are free to re-build their offense.

@Jason Cooper, I know that Melo looks better on paper, but Griffen is much more of a team player (i.e. the Knicks wont have to build offense around Griffen). Plus the Knicks could probably get Blake Griffen and a JJ Reddick or a Matt Barnes. IF this trade ends up happening, look for the Knicks to get multiple people or do a multi-team trade.

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

@Aditya Trivedi, I think we all knew it wouldn't happen, but it's fun to just say "what if" sometimes. I still think Doc could do something with Melo that other coaches have failed with, and that is making him a team player. Blake Griffin would be all alone in NY.

@Bobby Sherman, I think the only reason the Knicks would win in this trade is because they get rid of Melo before he just end ups leaving. Might as well get something for him right?

Bobby Sherman
Bobby Sherman
Senior Columnist

@Dana kurtz, they definitely need to get rid of him, no question. And with how bad they are playing right now, it might be time to deal Melo, whether its to the Clippers or someplace else. What team needs a scorer the most right now?

@Aditya Trivedi, Griffen is averaging 27 and 11 boards in the last 10+ games, so, like you said, I think its ridiculous for the Clippers to trade Griffen for Melo, but Chris Paul likes Melo and wants to play with him, so we might see it happen, but I doubt it.

Mark Bruty
Mark Bruty
Analyst

I agree with @Dana kurtz in that Doc might be able to get through to Melo and playing with CP3 might reign him in a little bit. While I think it is less than 50% chance off happening, it might be a decent solution for both teams. Blake is a highlight guy who NY would love and since CP3 loves Melo and they could do with a scorer it could work. Doubtful to happen, but could work if needed to. Plus NY get rid of Melo and get something in return - can't be the worst scenario!

Rob Wechsler
Rob Wechsler
Columnist

I too agree with @Dana kurtz and can see Doc getting through to Melo and forcing him to play more defense, yet you cannot help but think that the Knicks are the clear winners of this deal should such a trade take place. This team desperately lacks youth,defense and electricity and with Melo likely leaving NY following this season the Knicks should try to get something for him while they still can. In situations like these, teams usually wouldn't get a player as good as Blake Griffin, so if I were the Knicks I would be eager to make such a deal. Melo is elite, but he is also aging and does little to contribute on the defensive side of the ball. In addition, Melo has not proven to help teams much in the postseason. The Knicks are the clear winners!

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

I think the Knicks can only be partial winners of this. Yeah they get rid of Melo for a good player before he leaves and they get nothing, but simply adding Griffin wouldn't help them much. I don't think they would be any better. I think Melo going to the Clippers though, he makes them instant favorites in the conference. Melo plays about as much defense as Griffin, but he scores way more. Clippers are winner "Right Now" but I think this helps the Knicks later on.

Dan Moberger
Dan Moberger
Senior Analyst

@Scott Whittum, my brotha, I too think 'Melo makes every team he's on worse. And I think that, not only because of his defense, but because he's a purely isolation scorer. He needs the ball in his hands and is far too inefficient to ever lead a championship-winning team. Unless Doc can completely change his game, which I doubt, 'Melo to the Clips wouldn't do anything for them. He's not a good defender to begin with, even if Doc gets him to put more effort in on defense. I've just always hated his game, said it's not a winning style at the pro level, and unless I blacked out and missed something, I'm pretty sure he's never won anything to prove me wrong.

That being said, I don't like Blake's game either. He should be more of an athletic role player than a fixture in any offense, a position which he is continually forced into. Both are paid too much for what they bring to their respective teams. This is a lose-lose for both teams, but since 'Melo has fewer years on his contract, I guess getting him is good for LA.

Dana Kurtz
Dana Kurtz
Senior Analyst

I remember when Melo was player at Syracuse, for one year... and he was an absolute highlight real. I think if he would have stayed in college a little longer, he might have learned how to be a team player, but I can't say for sure. I feel like his style of play is a lot like his personality. You can't really build a team around him either which is a definite negative. You can't win with stat hungry guys.